For people planning to add their own cars to the Cybercab swarm, from 1 car to 50. 800+ future owners on X comparing cities, costs and timelines. Free, independent, one tap to join.
Most future fleet owners will be ready too late . The 90-Day Fleet Plan fixes that .
City choice · Depot · Cost per km · Funding · Rules · 90-day readiness
800+ future fleet owners on X compare cities , costs and timelines . The starter guide is free to download . Want one of the full guides ? Request it below and we send it to you by email .
Join the community on X Download the free guideThe full plan : city choice , depot , charging , cleaning , insurance , rules and funding routes .
How the cost of running one robotaxi adds up , per km and per mile .
Ways to fund a fleet and keep depreciation under control .
How to size , build , staff and finance a hub that charges , cleans and parks robotaxis .
The short starter : what is known , fleet size and a readiness checklist .
Plans, numbers and lessons from people preparing the same thing.
Financing, costs and returns, discussed openly every week.
Our ambition: a pipeline of ready owners to help grow the robotaxi fleet faster.
Nobody has the full answers yet. That's why we compare notes.
How much of each fare per mile goes to the owner? Not announced yet.
Depot, Supercharger or solar + battery. What does it cost per km, all-in?
Who covers what when the car drives itself, and what it costs per car.
City and country rules, from Texas to the Netherlands and the EU.
Lease, loan or cash, and how fast a second car pays for itself.
Cleaning, inspections, parking and uptime. The boring parts that decide profit.
Community trip
We are going to Austin with members of the community . The first Robotaxi city , and home of Gigafactory Texas where the Cybercab is built . See Robotaxis in action , talk to early operators and meet each other . Planned for 2027 , date to be announced with members .
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A guest or co-host seat in the TeslatoMars podcast, recorded in the car while driving on FSD.
Independent community, not affiliated with Tesla.
Night after night, more Cybercabs move through Austin as one swarm. We want Europe to have its own: your cars join the swarm, run by local operators, owned by the community.
Add a car, or a share of one, to a growing robotaxi swarm.
Local operators handle charging, cleaning and uptime.
The swarm belongs to the people who join it, not one company.
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Waitlist only: no money is requested and nothing is offered yet. Independent, not affiliated with Tesla, Inc.
We are testing a new idea: experience FSD (Supervised) in Europe yourself, today, and build towards a community robotaxi fleet tomorrow. Tell us what you would join.
You sit behind the wheel, an FSD expert sits beside you and explains how it works. You are the driver and stay attentive at all times.
Drive one yourself, booked and insured via an established car-sharing platform.
Own a Tesla with FSD ? Rent it out to curious drivers through the same platform.
Everyone who joins now hears first when a community robotaxi fleet takes shape.
Only in countries where FSD (Supervised) is allowed. See the Europe FSD map.
Rides run with licensed taxi partners and taxi drivers who already own a Tesla with FSD. An early step towards a robotaxi fleet.
Taxi companies and independent taxi drivers with a Tesla, car-sharing and rental platforms, driving schools and instructors, and insurers.
An idea in testing, not a live service. No partner is signed. Not affiliated with Tesla, Inc. Your details go to our team via FormSubmit, only used for this.
Robotaxis registered in Texas: Cybercab and Model Y
On 27 October 2026 Cybercabs first outnumbered Model Ys in the Texas fleet: 544 vs 507. Source: Texas DMV registrations via @herbertong.
Miles cover all Tesla Robotaxi cities, fleet count is Texas registrations, so per-car figures are approximate. The Texas figure matches Texas miles to the Texas fleet.
Miles per Robotaxi per day (Texas, weekly average)
Members of the Tesla Cybercab Fleet Owners X Community · bars show new members per day
Cybercab source: public Texas registration data via @joehansen (https://x.com/joehansen/status/2114242963572232632). Independent community tracker, not affiliated with Tesla.
Live counters, ticking at Tesla's published fleet pace.
Robotaxi (unsupervised) miles: history and forecast to 31 Dec
FSD (Supervised) miles: history and forecast to 31 Dec
Source: Tesla (FSD safety report, Robotaxi safety report). Not affiliated with Tesla. Forecasts are illustrations, not predictions.
A rough straight-line illustration of the whole Tesla Cybercab network's gross fares. Not an owner earnings estimate.
Tesla network-level gross fares only: a simple straight-line illustration from public data, not a forecast, not an owner earnings estimate, not financial or investment advice. It says nothing about returns, costs or any owner revenue split. Not affiliated with Tesla.
Now called Tesla Assisted Driving. Every approval builds on the Dutch RDW approval.
This is supervised FSD: the driver stays responsible at all times. It is not driverless and not Robotaxi.
Estimated gross fare revenue per month, based on public Tesla data
Live estimate starts once we have a few days of Tesla miles data.
gross fares per month, illustration
Illustration of gross fare revenue only, based on public Tesla data and fares. Not a return, profit or offer. Excludes vehicle cost, charging, insurance, cleaning, Tesla's platform share and taxes. Actual results will differ. Nothing is offered or sold here.
Tesla to Mars #39 - FSD is a $10K feature to launch a $10B business. We CRACKED the code to FUND it!
Former MisterGreen executive Michiel van Duin joins the Tesla to Mars hosts on financing Teslas, leasing FSD and how investors and communities could co-own autonomous fleets.
Simplest start: no lender, no interest, full control while the rules are still unclear.
Familiar route for a first car. Check whether the lender allows commercial or robotaxi use.
Lease the car instead of owning it. Mister Green (NL) has leased thousands of Teslas, including FSD, and has a robotaxi page at mistergreen.nl/robotaxi. Check that ride-hailing use is allowed in the contract.
Put the fleet in a company. Cleaner books, possible tax benefits and easier to add cars, but more admin.
The car itself is the collateral, as with taxis and trucks. Common once you run more than one car.
Share a car with friends or family. Put ownership, costs, payouts and exit rules in writing first.
Use real earnings from car 1 to fund the next. Slower, but based on your own numbers, not estimates.
Subsidies, tax schemes and lower road tax differ per country and city. Look them up before you choose a route.
Emails are only used to reply and send funding updates.
Not financial advice. This is general information shared by an independent community. Check your own situation with a qualified adviser, lender or accountant before you commit.
Co-own a robotaxi fleet without running it yourself. The CyberFund is a pooled fund that would buy and operate robotaxis, with fleet operators ("shepherds") running the cars day to day.
Many people put money into one fund instead of each buying and running their own car.
The fund owns a fleet, so you co-own part of it without running a car yourself.
Local fleet operators, called shepherds, handle charging, cleaning and keeping the cars on the road.
Cities, investors and communities could co-own autonomous fleets together.
Robotaxis could flip how car value works: instead of only losing value, a car that earns money while it drives can stay productive for years. A fund lets more people take part, and spreads the work across experienced operators.
From Tesla to Mars episode #39, a deep dive with Michiel, a former MisterGreen executive and financial architect behind early FSD funding strategies. It covers how MisterGreen financed 5,000+ Teslas with FSD, the economics of leasing FSD, and a new class of investors and shepherds.
Not yet. Our team is still developing the idea. There are no returns, fees, minimums or launch dates yet.
Guest: Nicolas (@RoboFlock)
How everyday investors and local operators can own a piece of the robotaxi fleet.
Listen to episode 38Guest: Michiel, former MisterGreen executive
Funding FSD, why robotaxis flip depreciation, and the CyberFund idea.
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The CyberFund is not yet available. Registering interest is not an investment and no money is requested. Any future offer will only be made with the required licences and a prospectus or information document. Independent, not affiliated with Tesla, Inc.
We're working on a way for you to own a piece of a real robotaxi fleet and share in the revenue it earns, without buying or running a car yourself.
Buy a stake in a fleet of robotaxis, starting small.
A share of the fleet's ride revenue flows back to stakeholders.
Vetted fleet operators handle charging, cleaning and uptime.
We're exploring two routes: the CyberFund, and tokenized stakes in individual fleets.
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This is not an offer of securities or an invitation to invest. No stakes are available yet and no money is requested. Any future offer will only be made once the required licences are in place and a prospectus or information document is available. The value of investments can go down as well as up.
Independent, not affiliated with Tesla, Inc.
An all-electric, self-driving fleet that makes city travel safer, cheaper and cleaner — owned by many, run by local operators.
Grow towards 15,000 autonomous-ready vehicles across Europe by 2030, adding Cybercabs as they become available.
Smart fleet software for routing, charging and maintenance, built on years of Tesla fleet data.
Start with pilots in tech-forward cities like Amsterdam, Berlin and Paris, working with ride-hailing platforms and local charging and cleaning partners.
Drivers and entrepreneurs can start with leased cars now and switch them to robotaxi work once allowed. Members get ride perks; we communicate openly, safety first.
Prepare fleets, regulatory approvals, first city pilots
Full service in three cities, Cybercabs join
15,000 vehicles, more European cities
Timing depends on European approval of unsupervised self-driving; we work with policymakers and keep leasing and partnerships as a buffer.
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An ambition, not a forecast. Independent, not affiliated with Tesla, Inc.
Cybercab Fleet Advisor is a free Grok Bot template. Tell it your city, fleet size, start date and funding route, and it builds your fleet plan.
An all-in estimate for your city and setup.
Low, base and high cases, so you see the range.
How long until each car pays for itself in each scenario.
Routes that fit your plan, from cash to lease to a business loan.
What to prepare before you talk to a bank or lease company.
A sourced robotaxi news update every week.
Runs in the Grok Bot app. Independent, not affiliated with Tesla, Inc. Not financial advice.
A 1-on-1 review of your fleet plan by a fleet expert: costs, earnings, funding and local rules. You get an independent second pair of eyes before you commit.
Your robotaxi fleet plan, stress-tested in 60 minutes.
€249 incl. VAT · founding price, first 10 reviews
Later €349 · €199 for founding Fleet Pro members
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The numbers behind a robotaxi fleet, every month.
€19/mo €29/mo or€190/yr €290/yr
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Independent, not affiliated with Tesla, Inc. Not financial advice: reviews cover business planning, not advice on loans, leases or insurance products. Emails are only used to reply.
Refunds: Fleet Pro has a 14-day refund and you can cancel anytime. Reviews are fully refunded if cancelled 48 hours or more before the call.
Last updated 23 Oct 2026 · Short, dated and sourced. Tap an item for details.
Testing starts in Madrid City, Alcobendas and Getafe under Spain's DGT framework, first with specialists at the wheel.
20 supervised vehicles are mapping Madrid. Commercial rides in the Uber app targeted by end of 2026 (announced 2 Jun 2026).
Source: Uber · GlobeNewswire
A national type approval with provisional validity. A driver assistance system, not self-driving. The driver stays responsible.
Source: RDW
The 6 Oct EU committee (TCMV) meeting only discussed the Dutch request. Approval needs 15 of 27 member states representing 65% of the EU population.
Most recently Slovakia. Germany supports the EU procedure and its KBA is reviewing, with no national approval yet.
Source: TAD tracker
German state transport officials say current passenger transport law (PBefG) doesn't allow robotaxi market access and propose a trial framework.
Source: GKVS minutes · HSF Kramer
Our interviews on Over The Horizon with @roydendsouza
No fixed monthly fee . We take a share of the car's ride revenue , so when the car does not earn , you do not pay .
We handle charging , cleaning , insurance , maintenance and network ops . You just own the car .
You handle charging and cleaning . We handle insurance , maintenance and network ops .
Every owner owns their own car , with one contract per car . Funding is not offered yet , but you can tell us you need it .
An idea in testing , not a live service . No earnings are promised . Not affiliated with Tesla, Inc. Your details go to our team via FormSubmit , only used to reply .
Our idea: offer the Tesla Semi to hauliers on a pay-per-mile basis, so smaller European transport companies can go electric without a big upfront truck purchase, and get ready for autonomous trucking.
This is a concept being explored by an independent community. It is not a Tesla offer, and it is not affiliated with or endorsed by Tesla, Inc.
Instead of buying a truck and running it yourself, you pay per mile driven. The price could cover the truck, charging and maintenance, with insurance as an option.
European transport companies with a few to a few dozen trucks, for whom the upfront cost of an electric truck is the biggest hurdle.
The Semi is in production and heading to Europe, autonomy is on Tesla's roadmap, and EU rules on emissions and automated driving keep moving.
Dated and sourced. Last checked 23 Oct 2026.
Source: Tesla Q3 2026 update
Source: FreightWaves
Source: FreightWaves
Source: FreightWaves
Source: Automobile Propre via TeslAnt
Source: Reuters
What would a fair all-in rate be? Not known yet. No pricing exists.
Where the stalls will be, and whether hauliers can use them on their routes.
EU type approval, weight and length rules for electric trucks, and rules for automated trucks.
What an electric truck is worth after years of pay-per-mile use, and who carries that risk.
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The idea: Cybercab and Semi fleet owners get depot charging plus solar and battery storage (for example Tesla Megapack or Powerwall, with chargers) without the upfront investment, paying a monthly fee or per kWh.
This is a concept being explored by an independent community. It is not a Tesla offer, and it is not affiliated with or endorsed by Tesla, Inc.
Own solar and stored energy can cut what each km costs to charge.
A battery buffers the depot so a small grid connection can still charge a fleet. Very relevant in the Netherlands.
Charge at the cheapest hours, from the grid or from storage.
The battery could earn from grid services or energy trading when the cars don't need it.
Owners planning a few Cybercabs who need a place to charge.
Transport companies moving to electric trucks like the Semi.
Owners of depots and parking sites with space for chargers, solar and storage.
Dated and sourced. Last checked 23 Oct 2026.
Source: Enexis
Source: Motley Fool transcript
Source: Tesla Q3 2026 update · TeslaNorth
How long until a depot gets the capacity it needs?
Building, fire safety and local rules for batteries and chargers.
How many years would a fee-based deal need to run?
The provider, the fleet owner, or a transfer at the end?
How volatile prices change the business case. No pricing exists yet.
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The energy side of fleet ownership is about more than charging. The Megapod is a planned Tesla product: a self-contained, modular AI computing unit with servers, networking, power distribution and cooling in one box. It is not launched yet.
Tesla filed the MEGAPOD trademark in June 2026 (USPTO 99893717, intent to use) for modular AI data center hardware. On Tesla's Q2 call Musk said it could sit at Supercharger sites and use their grid connections. No price, specs or launch date.
On the SpaceX Q3 call (Oct 20) he described factory-built inference compute at charging sites, linked by Starlink. How it would work exactly is not public.
Robotaxi fleets need depots with big grid connections, batteries and fast charging. If charging hubs also host compute, power at those sites becomes more valuable, and hubs with storage could serve cars and compute at once. That is our reading, not a Tesla plan.
Will pods ever sit at depots run by fleet owners ? Who gets priority on power, cars or compute ? Will it come to Europe ? Nobody knows yet. Tesla has said cars come first.
Unconfirmed: the Megapod is a trademark filing plus statements on earnings calls, not a product. Sources: @farzyness on X (call clip) · Electrek · Teslarati · OPIS (Q2 call) · SpaceX Q3 transcript. Not affiliated with Tesla, Inc.
Our idea for fleet hubs : one pod with storage , liquid cooling and load-balancing software , installed , monitored and tuned as a service . For depot charging peaks , grid limits and backup power . A community concept , not a Tesla product .
Open questions from future fleet owners. Make your call on each one. Free forecasting, no money or bets: points go to the leaderboard when Tesla answers. Discuss them in the community on X.
Start with a plan : pick your city, decide on fleet size, and work out depot, charging, cleaning, insurance and funding. Tesla said customer cars should start joining the robotaxi network around Q2 2027. Our free 2027 Readiness Guide walks through each step, and members compare plans in the X community .
Cybercab Fleet Owners is a free, independent X community for people planning to run their own robotaxi fleet, from 1 car to 50. Members share city plans, cost frameworks and timelines. Some people search for it as "Cybercap fleet owners" : it's the same community, at cybercabfleetowners.com .
On Tesla's Q3 2026 earnings call, Tesla said customer cars should start joining the robotaxi fleet around Q2 2027.
Tesla said Cybercab deliveries to customers start by the end of 2026. Elon Musk also said the vast majority of Cybercabs will be Tesla-owned, so expect small private numbers at first.
Not announced. Members are modelling scenarios, and it's the most-asked question in the community.
No. It's an independent community of owners and enthusiasts, not affiliated with Tesla, Inc.
No. Anyone planning or curious about running a robotaxi fleet is welcome, wherever you live.
Tap "Join on X". It opens a ready-made post so we can welcome you, then request to join the X Community.
Sources: Tesla Q3 2026 earnings call (October 2026). Timelines are Tesla's guidance and can change.
What moved in Cybercab and robotaxi this week.
One question on the money side of ownership.
Members share their city, fleet size and timeline.
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The Tesla Cybercab Fleet Owners community, growing toward 1,000.
Guides on funding, Europe, Semi and Energy as a Service.
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